Mystery Jam Monday Part 158

Tuesday 09/03/2013 by bl002e

MYSTERY JAM MONDAY PART 158

It's time for another edition of Phish.net's Mystery Jam ... er ... "Monday." For roughly the one hundred and fifty-eighth time, here's the scoop: be the first person to identify the song and date of the mystery jam clip and win one MP3 download courtesy of our friends at LivePhish.com / Nugs.Net. Each person gets one guess per day, with the second “day” starting after I post the hint. A hint will be posted on ~~Tuesday~~ Wednesday if necessary, with the answer to follow on ~~Wednesday~~ Thursday. Enjoy!

Hint:

Answer: The Blog snaps its seven-game losing streak, but only due to eking out a hint-aided loss, as first-time winner @kozb4209 quietly submitted the correct answer: the 12/28/96 Mike's Song. Well done! Given the Blog's appalling 10-133-15 record, you'll have to forgive me for the obscureness of the pretzel-related hint, and it sure didn't help us win this one. MJM will return on its regularly scheduled day next Monday.

121 comments - Link: http://phi.sh/b/522614d0

Comments

2013-09-03 4:35 pm, comment by MiguelSanchez

I feeling a simple jam, but i don't have a clue as to which one... shot in the dark simple from 8/12/96

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2013-09-03 4:35 pm, comment by MiguelSanchez

i'm feeling not i feeling... i'm glad you can't be dq'ed for being grammatically incorrect.

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2013-09-03 5:09 pm, comment by gettinweird

i'm hearing an extended mango, but i'm tired.

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2013-09-03 6:21 pm, comment by PickeringPhish

Harry Hood....Not sure of the show but I will guess 12-30-95

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2013-09-03 6:21 pm, comment by phearless

Totally sounds like a early to mid 90's reba jam to me... not the clifford ball reba though. Agh ill have to get back to this in a bit..

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2013-09-03 6:23 pm, comment by mcgrupp81

Too simple to be a Simple? It would be sweet if this was part of a Reba.

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2013-09-03 6:35 pm, comment by Brandonclick77

11/9/95 Simple> Reba?

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2013-09-03 6:54 pm, comment by uctweezer

Yeah... my first instinct was definitely '93-'94 Hood, but I checked a bunch and no dice. My second instinct was Reba, but I haven't found anything yet -- though I have relistened to some of the most epic Rebas ever. So I got that goin' for me, which is nice:

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2013-09-03 7:11 pm, comment by mcgrupp81

@uctweezer said:

Yeah... my first instinct was definitely '93-'94 Hood, but I checked a bunch and no dice. My second instinct was Reba, but I haven't found anything yet -- though I have relistened to some of the most epic Rebas ever. So I got that goin' for me, which is nice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWcRqPesws[/quote] />
Hilarious. It's the first time in a long time that I've had the time to do some searching and I just listened to a bunch of 94 Reba snippets and didn't hear "it". Could be 93. Whatever it is, it's a nice source.

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2013-09-03 7:19 pm, comment by stevemott

Simple 12/2/97

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2013-09-03 7:20 pm, comment by Phish686

Don't have time to check but thinkin' some mid 90's out there Reba.

10/18/94 Reba.

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2013-09-03 7:28 pm, comment by Tuddd

8/31/13 Chalkdust. :-)

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2013-09-03 7:57 pm, comment by PersnicketyJim

11-30-1997 Wolfman's. The Phishtracks version is so close, so I'm banking that this source picked up some sounds better. This song was written about so eloquently this morning, which would also make for some nice community symmetry. But it's B Major, right? If type I it must be a Simple or Wolfman's. Of course, if type II it could be anything.

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2013-09-03 8:19 pm, comment by Babyrattlesnakes

Sounds a bit like a Fee jam to me.

Shot in the dark: Fee 11/19/97

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2013-09-03 8:23 pm, comment by Land2reform

I need to get more phish shows on my computer. I would love running through tons of shows to find the mmj. Just have my 15 shows and the majority of the the material Phish released themselves.

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2013-09-03 8:29 pm, comment by uctweezer

@Land2reform said:

I need to get more phish shows on my computer. I would love running through tons of shows to find the mmj. Just have my 15 shows and the majority of the the material Phish released themselves.

http://www.phishtracks.com

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2013-09-03 9:00 pm, comment by MiguelSanchez

@Babyrattlesnakes said:

Sounds a bit like a Fee jam to me.

Shot in the dark: Fee 11/19/97

I feel like that had a funkier feel, but honestly, it's been years since I've listened to that one.

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2013-09-03 10:10 pm, comment by lifeboy1975

roggae 2/26/03

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2013-09-03 11:19 pm, comment by PhillyZilla

Reba 10-29-98 Greek Theatre

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2013-09-03 11:32 pm, comment by bushwood_a_dump

Simple -> Lizards 12-8-94

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2013-09-04 12:35 am, comment by DodgeStoleThings

Roggae 7-1-99

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2013-09-04 2:25 am, comment by FirstTubeCT

Reba 7.5.98

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2013-09-04 5:15 am, comment by SkyTrainWand

Simple 11/6/98

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2013-09-04 8:12 am, comment by pistilstamen

Mike definitely sounds like he is using the Modulus, which means it's post 1996. Trey's tone sounds pre-1999. The recording has an 'indoor sound', so Fall '97 or '97 (or Island Terr). I think Simple is, well, a bit too simple. Humm...

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2013-09-04 8:58 am, comment by homerk

Im pretty sure that hint is, "These pretzels are making me thirsty."

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2013-09-04 9:24 am, comment by kidrob

@homerk said:

Im pretty sure that hint is, "These pretzels are making me thirsty."

definitely these pretzels are making me thirsty scene from seinfeld.

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2013-09-04 9:30 am, comment by MiguelSanchez

I love seinfeld, but this hint isn't doing much for me.

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2013-09-04 9:33 am, comment by homerk

Water related? Woody Allen? He was having trouble parking cars, could it be a contact?

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2013-09-04 9:42 am, comment by Phish1

Water related..NYC..Cars..Pretzels..Salt...salt...MSG??

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2013-09-04 10:04 am, comment by The_Lawn_Boy

I think I get the hint...

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2013-09-04 10:05 am, comment by perpg

tweezer 8/2/97?

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2013-09-04 10:16 am, comment by WayIFeel

Simple 7.21.98....These pretzels are making me thirsty....

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2013-09-04 10:19 am, comment by white_lightning

my thought based on the hint is a Suzy...

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2013-09-04 10:24 am, comment by Phish1

Suzy...Susanna...but, I am NOT a Suz...

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2013-09-04 10:31 am, comment by forbin1

Bosco?

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2013-09-04 10:41 am, comment by phootyjon

Halleys from Red Rocks 8/05/1996

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2013-09-04 10:53 am, comment by markhood

REBA - 12-04-1991

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2013-09-04 11:20 am, comment by bushwood_a_dump

@markhood said:

REBA - 12-04-1991

I follow you on the date...

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2013-09-04 11:25 am, comment by GottaJibboo

I know I've said it before, but @bl002e is killing it with these MJM's.

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2013-09-04 11:25 am, comment by The_Lawn_Boy

I thought it was 'Thank You' from 10/30/2012 Because of the comment on the video saying "Thank You

" But it wasn't so...

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2013-09-04 11:26 am, comment by The_Lawn_Boy

Thank You 10/30/10

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2013-09-04 11:32 am, comment by phishncincy

11-14-97 Piper???

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2013-09-04 11:51 am, comment by Phart_Door

Latex?

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2013-09-04 12:01 pm, comment by Mr_Incompletely

Its def a suzy

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2013-09-04 12:14 pm, comment by PersnicketyJim

Pretzels are twisted. No luck there.

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2013-09-04 12:29 pm, comment by uctweezer

The clue and all the comments since the clue have me so confused.

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2013-09-04 12:36 pm, comment by Harpua108

Reba 12/30/98 MSG...

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2013-09-04 12:38 pm, comment by bushwood_a_dump

Isn't George's dream to be ensconsed in Velvet?

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2013-09-04 12:54 pm, comment by RunLikeACantelope

12-30-94 Harry Hood

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2013-09-04 1:11 pm, comment by rej8709

FWIW, the original air date of "The Alternate Side" (i.e., "the pretzels are making me thirsty" episode) was 12-4-91, also the date of a show...

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2013-09-04 1:15 pm, comment by andrewrose

Well I might as well share my line of thinking re. the hint as I'm stumped..

1: George! Could be a show from the Gorge in George, WA, but none of my searches yielded anything.

2: NYC... kind of an obvious hint and too general? But there's the whole Woody Allen/New York thing in that episode so maybe. Pick your MSG show..

3: 12/4/91 was the original airdate of that episode accordingly to Wikipedia.. and there have been lots of shows on 12/4 ... 94, 95, 96, 99

I agree with @pistilstamen on the timeline re. tones, and @PersnicketyJim is right, is does sound a LOT like a section of that 11/30/97 Wolfman's.

Other thoughts: it's got a bit of a Squirming Coil / Piper vibe with Page on the piano there, a bit of a island flair that could be a Ya Mar excursion.. Have a feeling it's something familiar from 97 that right under our noses.

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2013-09-04 1:18 pm, comment by SkyTrainWand

I don't think the MJM is from 12-4-91 though... This is tricky

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2013-09-04 1:19 pm, comment by Doctor_Smarty

7/1/97 "Jam" before Loving Cup

gimme little drink

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2013-09-04 1:25 pm, comment by uctweezer

Only other thing that hasn't been mentioned here is a potential switcheroo -- Allen Woody played in Mule and the Allmans though he never sat in with Phish... Hmmm...

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2013-09-04 1:28 pm, comment by phishpyle

6/30/2000 Mango (It moved!)> Twist (these pretzels are making me thirsty!)

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2013-09-04 1:32 pm, comment by SkyTrainWand

Also, the MJM is in Bb major... indicating a possible Simple or Wolfman's. I would be surprised if it was Reba, I'm not really sure how many other songs are in F or Bb

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2013-09-04 1:36 pm, comment by NickSalv

7/29/97 Twist

like a pretzel. and hot weather makes you thirsty. im lost.

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2013-09-04 1:39 pm, comment by NickSalv

pullin for a type 2 here... cant get Phishtracks to play today at work, got a fresh new ipod but have yet to put on any 97-98. what am i doing with my life

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2013-09-04 1:42 pm, comment by TheNonArmenianMan

Definitely not from 12-4-91, the show is too high energy. Thought it might be hidden in that Lizards or Mango somewhere but to no avail...and the Reba is a typical whistle-Reba so it's not him either.

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2013-09-04 1:42 pm, comment by uctweezer

@SkyTrainWand said:

Also, the MJM is in Bb major... indicating a possible Simple or Wolfman's. I would be surprised if it was Reba, I'm not really sure how many other songs are in F or Bb

Pretty sure the Reba jam is technically in Bb major and that Trey typically jams in F mixolydian over the top of it... but I don't remember.

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2013-09-04 1:43 pm, comment by Jackaroe

12/30/97 Hood

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2013-09-04 1:44 pm, comment by freetorun

3/11/92 Reba

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2013-09-04 2:19 pm, comment by SkyTrainWand

this is so HARD. damnit. Really picked a good one here, @bl002e

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2013-09-04 2:42 pm, comment by pistilstamen

I thought it would be one of those melodious Mike's Songs from '98, then I thought it might be a Limb from Fall '98 (which are really awesome, btw), then after the hit I tried the 12-30-98 Coil, but I keep coming up empty.

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2013-09-04 2:51 pm, comment by Wondrous_Glow

8-2-97 wolfman's

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2013-09-04 3:13 pm, comment by akjed

07/08/99 Fee

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2013-09-04 3:22 pm, comment by ekstewie1441

Wild guess...10/9/99 Simple

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2013-09-04 3:29 pm, comment by WayIFeel

@pistilstamen said:

I thought it would be one of those melodious Mike's Songs from '98, then I thought it might be a Limb from Fall '98 (which are really awesome, btw), then after the hit I tried the 12-30-98 Coil, but I keep coming up empty.

I'm convinced it's a '98 jam.

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2013-09-04 3:53 pm, comment by The_Good_Doctor

12/30/94 Simple

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2013-09-04 3:57 pm, comment by andrewrose

I'm assuming all the 12/30/94 guesses have to do with the fact that Jerry Seinfeld was the guest on Letterman when Phish played on that day...

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2013-09-04 4:10 pm, comment by Cyrnix

I was tHinking the fact that he's drinking a Shasta...mt shasta...idk. I've tried to Find a correlation but I'm coming up empty.

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2013-09-04 4:22 pm, comment by forbin1

12/30/98 Coil

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2013-09-04 4:38 pm, comment by kozb4209

mikes song 12/28/1996

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2013-09-04 5:11 pm, comment by 3PointOhKeePa

12-4-91 SUNY Plattsburgh Reba!

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2013-09-04 5:54 pm, comment by thebull288

Reba - 12/4/96 in San Diego

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2013-09-04 6:09 pm, comment by likeaghost

8/16/96 Hood

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2013-09-04 6:30 pm, comment by phamilyguy91

Reba 8-7-10 Greek theater

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2013-09-04 6:32 pm, comment by bassbombaficionado

limb by limb 12.4.1999.

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2013-09-04 6:33 pm, comment by bassbombaficionado

shoot...i mean limb by limb 12.3.99

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2013-09-04 6:39 pm, comment by PersnicketyJim

What if it's Timber. You know, Timber (Jerry).

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2013-09-04 6:41 pm, comment by kevron79

It really sounds like fall tour 98'

Im really stumped.....11-6-98 Kohl Center?

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2013-09-04 6:47 pm, comment by Blackeydsloth

12/1/96 Simple

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2013-09-04 6:55 pm, comment by sirhotpants

@bassbombafficionado: What. An awesome. Avatar.

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2013-09-04 6:59 pm, comment by mcgrupp81

I heard those Page piano notes and thought it sounded like a trolley. I typed in "trolley",
"Phish", and "Page" and the first result was the link to the setlist to 12/4/91. The reviewer made reference to that trolley piano work as a tease of Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. Weird.

I could have done without the clue.

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2013-09-04 7:44 pm, comment by frankzappasmustache2012

@uctweezer said:

@SkyTrainWand said:
Also, the MJM is in Bb major... indicating a possible Simple or Wolfman's. I would be surprised if it was Reba, I'm not really sure how many other songs are in F or Bb
Pretty sure the Reba jam is technically in Bb major and that Trey typically jams in F mixolydian over the top of it... but I don't remember.

It's Eb lydian I believe. F mixolydian contains the same notes, though.

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2013-09-04 9:30 pm, comment by walstib

I'd think the Seinfeld reference is regarding a Suzy as somebody else mentioned.

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2013-09-04 9:37 pm, comment by Dudeclark5

Maybe the hint is regarding the date or year? Anyone recognize that episode? Check the year it was debuted.

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2013-09-04 9:53 pm, comment by toddwcorey

I'm going with 12/4/91 Stash. That TV still is from "The Alternate Side" episode, which originally aired on that date. The drums sound Stash-like and a Dm jam could conceivably move to Bb.

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2013-09-04 9:53 pm, comment by mmbyem

Mule 12/28/97?????

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2013-09-04 10:24 pm, comment by HighClassWook

@Dudeclark5 said:

Maybe the hint is regarding the date or year? Anyone recognize that episode? Check the year it was debuted.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697648/

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2013-09-04 10:50 pm, comment by stevemott

Simple 8/3/97

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2013-09-04 11:12 pm, comment by jragz44

Coil 4/19/91

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2013-09-04 11:35 pm, comment by phellow

It's gotta be Simple in Bb major. I've scrubbed PT thoroughly to no avail... though Reba in Eb maj fits just as well.

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2013-09-04 11:44 pm, comment by Brandonclick77

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

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2013-09-04 11:56 pm, comment by MJZ1974

7-7-99 2001

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2013-09-05 12:02 am, comment by uctweezer

Is this it? That's all we g

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2013-09-05 12:03 am, comment by uctweezer

Phone fail. That's all we got? I HATE it when the blog wins...

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2013-09-05 12:43 am, comment by GopherGuts

09/10/1999 twist

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2013-09-05 12:57 am, comment by TheBenWith

Timber 11/16/97

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2013-09-05 2:14 am, comment by SkyTrainWand

Sid's nephew's foot operation in the Seinfeld episode made me think Bye Bye Foot or My Left Toe.

Checked... nope. still have no clue what this could be

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2013-09-05 4:04 am, comment by IdRatherBeOnTour

Twist 4/2/98

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2013-09-05 4:35 am, comment by anaheim

suzy 6/17/04 (he tosses a hail mary, never having heard this version)

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2013-09-05 5:57 am, comment by braindeadr

In the end credits of early Seinfelds, the executive producer (or something like that) was listed as a Suzy Greenberg. Later episodes listed Suzy Mamman Greenberg. I always get a kick out of seeing that. This jam doesn't sound like a Suzy to me. I heard Coil first then thought Simple was possible. Hope this credit info helps somebody get it. Can t let The Blog get into double digit wins!

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2013-09-05 6:04 am, comment by braindeadr

This jam sounds way newer than '91 but what the hell. I don t have a better/real guess.

Squirming Coil 12/4/91

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2013-09-05 8:12 am, comment by pauly

The keys

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2013-09-05 8:20 am, comment by nicu2

I'm thinking gorge.....not George?

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2013-09-05 8:37 am, comment by forbins0218

I was just going to say coil 1991 at Plattsburgh.

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2013-09-05 9:20 am, comment by drshaws

I'm going with the only tour shirt I could find referencing pretzels - the 2010-11 NYE run. Hood 12/28/10

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2013-09-05 9:26 am, comment by drucifer

7-16-98 Coil

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2013-09-05 9:40 am, comment by ottercreek

i may be way of but it sounds like curtain to me

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2013-09-05 9:43 am, comment by bushwood_a_dump

I really wanted it to be one of the early Taste -> Water in the Sky combos (yes, these pretzels are making me thirsty), but no dice.

Whenever this bad boy is announced, I guarantee that I was within a week of it. If it ain't a '98, you can kick me to the curb.

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2013-09-05 9:48 am, comment by Brandonclick77

I hear 96

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2013-09-05 11:17 am, comment by RoundMound

Based on the hint- George's Father is Frank, and the pretzel Line....

Frankie Says 04/02/98

Dont think its it but Twist Follows so maybe thats the hint?

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2013-09-05 11:22 am, comment by BoxcarSocial

8-3-97 Simple from the Gorge in George (Costanza), WA

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2013-09-05 11:25 am, comment by uctweezer

@BoxcarSocial said:

8-3-97 Simple from the Gorge in George (Costanza), WA

I think I checked '97 - '03 Gorge shows...

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2013-09-05 12:53 pm, comment by kozb4209

yay finally I won

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2013-09-05 1:00 pm, comment by uctweezer

@kozb4209 said:

yay finally I won

Nice work phan!

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2013-09-05 2:44 pm, comment by drshaws

Funny - the 'obscureness' of the pretzel for NYE runs was the pretzel on the ticket - and I picked an NYE run with pretzel on the shirt.

Is the pretzel/NYE run relationship something to explore?

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2013-09-05 5:56 pm, comment by projmersch